Guns for sale at BudsGunShop.com. Please look here for shotguns, pistols, revolvers, rifles, and muzzleloaders. (Firearms ship to FFL only.). Thanks to John Blood for providing the serial number info. If you have a Universal M1 Carbine, especially one with a SN in the transition ranges listed below, or examples that don't fit the range, please send the following info to blood.john(at)gmail.com or to maxiweb1@maxicon.com. Serial number range (xxx the last 3 digits if you want). Inland m1 carbine low serial number http //bit.ly/2pokg1u. M1 carbine inland serial number 6,274,xxx. I still submit that after the m2 was approved to make.
A five digit? That's gonna be worth over $1000 easily.
Does it have the early features (no bayonet lug, flip rear sight?)Also, field strip and check the receiver to see if its a spring tuber.A five digit is gonna be worth over a thousand to begin with, and if it's in original condition, even more so.As for an appraiser, no idea, but it'd probably not hurt to take a number of photos of it and post them on the ODCMP carbine forum or maybe the M1 section on AR15.com.But as a short, insufficient answer, that carbine is worth more than your regular Inland by a bit. A five digit? That's gonna be worth over $1000 easily. Does it have the early features (no bayonet lug, flip rear sight?)Also, field strip and check the receiver to see if its a spring tuber.A five digit is gonna be worth over a thousand to begin with, and if it's in original condition, even more so.As for an appraiser, no idea, but it'd probably not hurt to take a number of photos of it and post them on the ODCMP carbine forum or maybe the M1 section on AR15.com.But as a short, insufficient answer, that carbine is worth more than your regular Inland by a bit. Yes, it does have those features. There's a stamp on the barrel that says '8-42' which I take to be a date of manufacture (?).
Seems to have all matching serial numbers.I researched it as best I could at one time, and figured $1200, maybe.This rifle was once owned by an Army officer who served in Germany after WWII. He had amassed a sizable collection during his lifetime.
There were a few items remaining in the collection when the deceased owner's son asked me to help him dispose of the collection for him. Most of what was left was ordinary stuff, except for this M1, and a Winder musket.In return for helping him, I got to take one gun for a discount price. In this case $250. This was about 8 years ago.So I figure I got a good deal. It's not armory-new, but it was never knocked around.I'm no expert, unlike others here. That's why I'm here.
Truth be told, I would be hesitant to field strip it because I'm a dope, so I don't know about the spring tuber thing. But the time has come to find out just exactly what I have.If it helps, the serial number is 486xx. Sounds like a keeper!The 5 digit SN and matching numbers are a definite plus.I don't know it's value, but perhaps this person could give you an estimate.+1 on inquiring on the ODCMP forum, and perhaps here as well.Edit to add.From this thread in the CMP Carbine forum.It looks like a number of 5 digit Inlands were placed on auction rather than straight sales.Normally.they'll only do that for carbines that have some collectible significance (manufacturer, condition, low serial number, matching numbered parts, ect).
Sounds like a keeper!The 5 digit SN and matching numbers are a definite plus.I don't know it's value, but perhaps this person could give you an estimate.+1 on inquiring on the ODCMP forum, and perhaps here as well.Edit to add.From this thread in the CMP Carbine forum.It looks like a number of 5 digit Inlands were placed on auction rather than straight sales.Normally.they'll only do that for carbines that have some collectible significance (manufacturer, condition, low serial number, matching numbered parts, ect). And while I'm at it.
(too bad it's a 'school night. I now have SO much reading to do). A funny aside: When I first moved to Berkshire County on '02, the phone company guy who came to get my house set up with extra lines and stuff wore a name tag that said. It was his great uncle who designed the M1 at Springfield Armory. I took out the carbine and we talked a bit.
He said he liked our location and always wanted to live in a house with a stream (we have several) and I told hime to come by and visit anytime.' Course, he never did.But is that some crazy sh&t, or what?ETA.
I just signed up at ODCMP, and must wait to be approved. The other venues mentioned in this thread are also good reference sources. I appreciate the interest and information.Y'know, I really ought to go for a C&R license. Just got left with a bad taste in my mouth for federal goons after the Janet Reno FFL crackdown (I had an FFL some years ago). But that's another story for another day.But researching old milsurp firearms really is exciting. Lotta history there.
I can see why guys get into it. I also have what seems to be a Nagant revolver.
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In between M1 researches tonight I think I narrowed it down pretty close to a Model 1882, which is not (evidently) a true Nagant design.Fascinating.Then there's the old Santa Fe Jungle Carbine, cobbled together from various Enfield parts. Another project.And, yes. One does have to be careful of predators. Once, when I was down and out and needing cash fast I took the carbine to a gun shop here in the 'shires. I figured we could set a price and he'd take a 20% consignment fee. He said 'you tell me what you think you can get for it, and we'll sell it for as much as we can get and keep the difference'.
Damn!So I sold my 1870 Louis Vuitton steamer trunk on eBay instead. The two points that determine an early stock.
Note the high wood as pointed out. The wood goes up just at the front of the charging handle. That wood was removed in later models as it tended to crack off the early ones. Later ones had the wood all at the same (lower) level.Also notice early carbines did not have a bayo lug on the front barrel band.This is an early Winchester but it had a later sight added somewhere along the line.Sorry for the low qual pic, it was cut out of and blown up from another picture I had.Here's a later one for comparison.
Thinking about buying a NPM M1 Carbine after shooting my friends. The serial number dates to the range from 1944. The only markings on the stock were MU P and an RA. The stock looked very very good, almost too good.
It wasn't a dark or rough as some of the early M1's I've seen but from what I'm told later M1's had better fit and finish than first production years. Asking price was $1650 with a single mag. Does this sound like a fair, the seller wasn't willing to budge on price.Also for sale was an IBM M1 no markings on the stock at all.
Price was $1050 with 5 mags. Not sure if they were original mags or not.What should I be looking for when looking at an M1?
From what I understand the only ones that are somewhat questionable are the ones stamped Blue Sky as they remained in S. Korea and have often lived hard service lives.I intend to shoot this gun. Not looking to buy a new auto ordnance as price drops once you've bought it. M1 carbines have been climbing in value pretty well recently.
Thinking about buying a NPM M1 Carbine after shooting my friends. The serial number dates to the range from 1944. The only markings on the stock were MU P and an RA.
The stock looked very very good, almost too good. It wasn't a dark or rough as some of the early M1's I've seen but from what I'm told later M1's had better fit and finish than first production years. Asking price was $1650 with a single mag. Does this sound like a fair, the seller wasn't willing to budge on price.Also for sale was an IBM M1 no markings on the stock at all. Price was $1050 with 5 mags. Not sure if they were original mags or not.What should I be looking for when looking at an M1? From what I understand the only ones that are somewhat questionable are the ones stamped Blue Sky as they remained in S.
Korea and have often lived hard service lives.I intend to shoot this gun. Not looking to buy a new auto ordnance as price drops once you've bought it.
M1 carbines have been climbing in value pretty well recently. M1 carbine prices go all over the place. Heck you can even buy brand newly made M1 carbines made to military specs if you want to!Do you want a shooter or collector carbine?A carbine that has an importers stamp has a lower value than one that doesn't. (Still shoots the same!)Want an early one without a bayonet lug and flip rear sight or a modified one with a bayonet mount and adjustable rear sight?Matching parts? That does not necessarily means it is original from issue.
I can get all the M1 parts I need on ebay and make any M1 carbine a 'matching' carbine!My advice get a nice shooter with a bayonet mount and adjustable rear sight. WW2 15 rd mags can be bought for $15-$35.Any other thing you want for your M1, you can buy on ebay!
I think he means that since the guns where put together in such a hurry that when Rock Ola would run out of a part they'd get Winchester or another another manufacturer's parts and use them to keep the assembly line moving. People have been since returning guns to 'all original' ie all parts from the same manufacturer. That'd doesn't guarantee that it left the factory though since it's easy to find individual parts.Sounds like the prices are high and will continue the search. I'm looking for a shooter that'll hold its value but still has good fit and finish. M1 carbine were made by a number of manufactures. There are 'letter'codes established for each manufactures and subcontractor and these letter 'codes' are stamped on various parts.All matching vs how it left the factory:. There is a difference between an all matching carbine and how it left the factory, a lot of M1 Carbine contractors shipped parts to other Contractors.
Just because its all matching doesn't necessary mean that is how it left the factory. So don't get super disappointing if your Carbine is not all matching, its possible its exactly how it was when it left the factory!!! An example say Underwood was low on sears, Inland would ship some Sears to them. Sometimes marked or unmarked. Here is some known shipments to National Postal Meter, how ever there could be more shipments that occurred that are unknown but this is a good reference. $1650 is ridiculous.
Are you shopping at Cabelas? You need to look around some more for an M1 carbine.
You are getting into Irwin Pedersen prices with that. The IBM is a little high as far as I'm concerned. You can find plenty of decent ones for around $800 and if you look you can get closer to $700.Gunbroker is getting high values I thing because people who missed CMP's cut are too anxious for one.This is in your mentioned price range and probably a better buy. Still too high for my liking.Here is a NPM for $1250. Thinking about buying a NPM M1 Carbine after shooting my friends. The serial number dates to the range from 1944. The only markings on the stock were MU P and an RA.
The stock looked very very good, almost too good. It wasn't a dark or rough as some of the early M1's I've seen but from what I'm told later M1's had better fit and finish than first production years. Asking price was $1650 with a single mag. Does this sound like a fair, the seller wasn't willing to budge on price.Also for sale was an IBM M1 no markings on the stock at all. Price was $1050 with 5 mags. Not sure if they were original mags or not.What should I be looking for when looking at an M1?
From what I understand the only ones that are somewhat questionable are the ones stamped Blue Sky as they remained in S. Korea and have often lived hard service lives.I intend to shoot this gun. Not looking to buy a new auto ordnance as price drops once you've bought it. M1 carbines have been climbing in value pretty well recently. When ever I see a gun I like that is over priced I give the seller a chance to sell me. Many times they can not.You will seldom come across a 'original' carbine.
As mentioned you need to really look into what you want to buy.You already decided you want a shooter so once you see anything much over 1k it's probably not for you.Right now it's tough to find any M1 carbine under 1k that's a solid shooter. I have been following the carbine on cmp auctions for a while they all sell right at 900$ and up.Non listed at the momen tonly other thing to consider is the newest M1 US M1 carbine is 70 plus years old.mine needed spring replacements and new extractors to function 100%.